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INTERVIEW WITH ANDRE YEU<\/h1>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div>
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Karen Pryor Academy (KPA) faculty member Andre Yeu will lead the KPA Dog Trainer Professional (DTP) program in Ottawa, ON<\/a>. (application deadline February 13, 2025).<\/p>\n

Learn more about KPA professional certification<\/em><\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n

In this interview, Andre shares highlights from his own training career.<\/p><\/div><\/div>

\"Andre<\/span><\/div><\/div>

Q:<\/strong> Tell us about the first animal you ever trained.<\/p><\/div>

A: <\/strong><\/span>In 2006, my partner and I became first-time dog owners and adopted a then-three-year-old ex-hunting beagle named Duke. He lived outdoors in a kennel and the only time he was taken out was for hunting. We signed the adoption papers, paid the rescue fee, picked him up from his country home, and drove him straight into downtown Toronto.<\/p>\n

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Duke had a real zest for life. He would spin in circles, get the zoomies, run around in circles, and get all of the other dogs at the park to chase. He loved howling; he was the loudest beagle we ever met (he won a howling contest at a beagle-rescue annual fundraiser, in fact).<\/p>\n

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Duke had severe separation anxiety and, after a brief honeymoon period, he developed severe on-leash aggression toward dogs. We loved him dearly the moment we met him. Learning how to help him through his anxiety and aggression issues sparked my passion for dog training.<\/p><\/div>

Q:<\/strong> Was there a particular dog\/animal in your life that was your most important teacher?<\/span><\/p><\/div>

A: <\/strong><\/span>Yes! While my first beagle, Duke, sparked my passion, my second beagle, Petey, was my partner through KPA. He taught me lessons that took me from interested amateur to ready professional.<\/p>\n

Petey also came from a rescue background, but he was found as a stray. We fostered him and discovered very quickly that he had quite severe resource-guarding and body-handling sensitivity issues, along with very low bite inhibition. I still have scars from his bites early on.<\/p>\n

Petey taught me that kindness, patience, and positive reinforcement prevail in the end. Petey was the first dog I learned free-shaping with (through KPA). I titled him in dog sports and he earned his Canine Good Neighbour certification (the Canadian equivalent of the Canine Good Citizen). Before long, he became safe to handle. I would take him along with me to speaking engagements as my sidekick and feel safe that he could be petted and touched (and enjoy it). During the last month of his life, when his mobility was failing, Petey trusted me to pick him up and carry him when he needed help. An entire relationship founded on positive reinforcement was the key to earning that trust.<\/p><\/div>

Q: <\/strong>What is your favorite activity or sport that you do with your own dog(s)?<\/span><\/div>

A: <\/strong><\/span>These days, I share my home with two elderly beagles (estimated ages 13 and 15) that we adopted\/have in palliative care foster. Their hearing, vision, mobility, and general health are quite poor, so I don\u2019t teach them a lot of new things. One can still do scent detection (I taught it to her when she was 10), so we do some box searches for fun once in a while. The other is frequently ill, so most of my training with her is around accepting medical treatments like eye drops, ear drops, and other medication.<\/p>\n

Although my two girls are beyond their peak training years, I am not letting that be a barrier to keeping my training chops up. Fortunately, my neighbour across the street has a very bright and hardworking beagle mix named T-Bone (also a rescue, from the Toronto Humane Society). He\u2019s an alumnus of my training facility and his owner has agreed to let me borrow him for my training projects. I often knock on their door and ask if T-Bone can come out to play.<\/p><\/div>

Q: <\/strong>Outside of training\/dog sports, do you have any hobbies?<\/span><\/p><\/div>

A: <\/strong><\/span>For my physical and mental well-being, I\u2019ve been physically active these last ten years. Earlier on, I focused on training in endurance sports like triathlons. I finished a Half Ironman Distance event in 2015. Shortly thereafter, I focused on Muay Thai (Thai Boxing), actually competing in two full-contact fights in 2018.<\/p>\n

Besides physical fitness, the other activity that keeps me busy is my spiritual practice. For the last few years, I have been practicing Zen, which has me meditating for hours every week. Pre-pandemic, I would go away for week-long silent meditation retreats multiple times per year.<\/p><\/div>

Q: <\/strong>When did you start training and how has the industry changed since you started?<\/span><\/p><\/div>

A: <\/strong><\/span>Back in 2010 when I started, I was the young \u201ckid\u201d on the block. Most dog training businesses ten years ago had barely functional websites and no social media activity.<\/p>\n

There\u2019s been a major changing of the guard. There are now many new dog trainers who have grown up with a smartphone in their hands. They are much savvier about using technology to market and sell their services.<\/p>\n

To stay ahead of the curve, and not go the way of the dinosaur, I make sure to stay current myself. I also rely on our younger team members to point out trends and keep our fingers on the pulse.<\/p><\/div>

Q: <\/strong>What is your proudest training moment?<\/p><\/div>

A: <\/strong><\/span>These days, the species I primarily work with is\u2026 homo sapiens! When Hounds Fly, the training business I founded in 2010, is growing by leaps and bounds. What I am most proud of is helping mentor and train an entire new generation of dog trainers who have much more impressive dog training accomplishments than I ever had. They even receive better ratings from our clients than I did! My greatest accomplishment is that my students have surpassed their teacher.<\/div>
Q: <\/strong>What do you do to continue your training education?<\/div>
A: <\/strong><\/span>Annual attendance at ClickerExpo is a must!<\/div>

Q: <\/strong>Do you have a memorable student\/client story that you can share?<\/p><\/div>

A: <\/strong><\/span>When my clients\u2019 dogs remind me of Duke or Petey, they have a slightly more special place in my heart. A couple with two school-aged children contacted us when they were contemplating rehoming their rescue beagle, Jake. His on-leash aggression toward dogs had become quite severe, and he had also become quite aggressive toward visitors to the house and to the mail carrier. The whole family, children included, loved Jake dearly, but were frustrated and very conflicted about keeping him as his aggression had progressed.<\/p>\n

Long story short, by focusing on the basics of good observation skills, timing, mechanics, and a straightforward explanation of learning theory, the family was able to reduce the on-leash aggression to rare instances. They could welcome visitors to the front porch again safely. Just as with Duke and me, positive reinforcement training saved Jake\u2019s life and saved a family\u2019s relationship with their beloved rescue dog.<\/p><\/div>

Q: <\/strong>What does a typical day look like for you?<\/div>
A: <\/strong><\/span>I know it\u2019s a bit of a clich\u00e9, but I am lucky enough to have reached a point where I don\u2019t have to work in<\/em> the business; I get to work on<\/em> it. I do project-based work that gets the business closer to the next milestone. Lately, I\u2019ve been doing a lot of interviewing, as we are growing our team significantly. On a regular basis, I meet with each of my instructors 1-on-1 to help support them and clear any obstacles they have to deliver outstanding classes or individual lessons to clients. My role now is to support others to be wildly successful dog trainers.<\/div>

Q: <\/strong>How has completing the DTP and becoming a KPA CTP changed your life and career?<\/span><\/p><\/div>

A: <\/strong><\/span>Completing the DTP was the major checkbox that I needed in order to have the confidence to switch careers and start a dog training business! As an investment, that training has paid for itself many times over. I would not be as successful without it.<\/div>

Q: <\/strong>What do you like most about the DTP program?<\/span><\/p><\/div>

A: <\/strong><\/span>My time as a student in the DTP was a wonderful time, full of curiosity, inspiration, and amazement. Every workshop felt like swallowing an entire lake of knowledge, whole. I also formed incredible bonds with the people in the workshops\u2014my peers, the classroom assistants, and, of course, my teacher, Steve Benjamin. I\u2019d like to pay this forward to the next generation of dog trainer aspirants.<\/div>
Q: <\/strong>What excites you most about leading the DTP?<\/span><\/div>
A: <\/strong><\/span>My time as a student in the DTP was a wonderful time, full of curiosity, inspiration, and amazement. Every workshop felt like swallowing an entire lake of knowledge, whole. I also formed incredible bonds with the people in the workshops\u2014my peers, the classroom assistants, and, of course, my teacher, Steve Benjamin. I\u2019d like to pay this forward to the next generation of dog trainer aspirants.<\/div>
Q: <\/strong>If you were a dog, what breed would you be?<\/span><\/div>
A: <\/strong><\/span>Beagle. Goal-oriented, locked onto the scent that leads to the fox, no matter what distractions may be around.<\/div><\/div><\/div>

Q:<\/strong> Tell us about the first animal you ever trained.<\/p><\/div>

A: <\/strong><\/span>I was actually animal-deprived as a child, although I did persuade my parents to let me get a \u201cused\u201d gerbil, Rat. Rat would ride around the house on my shoulder, but I don\u2019t know if I can say that I trained that systematically. The first animal I really had the opportunity to train was my current dog, Pigeon, who is now more than 17 years old.<\/div>

Q:<\/strong> Was there a particular dog\/animal in your life that was your most important teacher?<\/span><\/p><\/div>

A: <\/strong><\/span>That would be Pigeon. If it weren’t for her, I wouldn’t be a dog trainer. My husband and I adopted her at 7 months. In the early years, we put her in situations she couldn’t handle pretty constantly, and then were surprised when she began to aggress in those situations. While I was trying to learn how to help her, I found myself reading more and more about dogs and behavior. At a certain point, I realized I was interested in training more broadly. That’s a pretty typical origin story, I think.<\/p><\/div>

Q: <\/strong>What is your favorite activity or sport that you do with your own dog(s)?<\/span><\/div>
A: <\/strong><\/span>Hiking in woods or meadows. Pigeon tires very quickly these days and is starting to lose a lot of her faculties. But we try to take her to some open or woodsy space every week, even if we spend more time getting there than we do hiking. We will continue to do this as long as she seems to enjoy it. In her younger days, we both enjoyed training new \u201ctricks,\u201d and recreational nose work did wonders for her confidence in novel places.<\/div>

Q: <\/strong>Outside of training\/dog sports, do you have any hobbies?<\/span><\/p><\/div>

A: <\/strong><\/span>The most longstanding hobby I have is probably playing music, although I’ve not had much time for it in recent years. I taught myself how to play guitar after I finished college and played in two garage\/punk bands over 15 years or so. I never quit my day job, but we did get to make records and go on tour. I also like to listen to and see live music and, when I have time, to read fiction.<\/p><\/div>

Q: <\/strong>What do you do to continue your training education?<\/span><\/p><\/div>

A: <\/strong><\/span>I usually attend a couple of training or behavior-science conferences (almost always including ClickerExpo) and webinars and seminars by individual trainers every year. I am a co-instructor for Dr. Friedman’s course, which is a teaching gig but also involves ongoing mentorship from Dr. Friedman. I’m also a master’s student in applied behavioral science at the University of Kansas. I have a circle of trusted peers with whom I can discuss training concepts and cases.<\/p><\/div>

Q: <\/strong>What is your proudest training moment?<\/p><\/div>

A: <\/strong><\/span>I can\u2019t think of one particular moment. All of the things I can think of that I\u2019m proud of are more like the cumulation of many training moments where I did a lot of small things right, including teaching Pigeon, a dog that was totally disinterested in toys, to take, hold, and, eventually, play fetch with a toy; teaching a dog that ran away from husbandry procedures to chin target for ear-cleaning and flea meds and volunteer for tooth-brushing; or teaching a dog that fled every time anyone even approached the ice maker to run to the kitchen every time she heard it.<\/div>

Q: <\/strong>Do you have any student success stories that you can share?<\/p><\/div>

A: <\/strong><\/span>My clients have shared a number of them with me directly and with KPA anonymously through the Assurance, Commitment, and Education program. I have collected the highlights here<\/a>.<\/p><\/div>

Q: <\/strong>Do you have a memorable student\/client story that you can share?<\/p><\/div>

A: <\/strong><\/span>There are many that I find touching, but I did get some emails that actually made me tear up a bit. The clients have two dogs and had already worked through some major issues with them beautifully, with the help of the veterinary behaviorist who referred them to me. I worked with one dog on barking and lunging at other dogs on walks. He can now (mostly) just watch them go by with a loose leash and check in with his handler when he’s done looking. The other dog had developed a particularly persistent behavior of barking when guests were present—but not barking at the guests. He barked at the owner to get her to train him! I won’t go into all the details here, but we had to do some creative thinking about stimulus control that I felt pretty proud of. The clients recently let me know that, for the first time in these dogs’ lives with them, they were able to relax on their annual beach vacation and have guests over without constantly monitoring the dogs.<\/p><\/div>

Q: <\/strong>What does a typical day look like for you?<\/div>
A: <\/strong><\/span>Well, that has changed radically and several times in the past few years. One of the things I like about my work is that my days can look pretty different from each other. Generally, I like to do administrative work like answering emails and writing follow-ups in the mornings, with coffee. I see clients starting mid-morning and then it\u2019s often back to computer work, like evaluating KPA students\u2019 assignments or reviewing homework for Susan Friedman\u2019s Living and Learning With Animals course or functional-assessment and intervention-design worksheets for IAABC\u2019s behavior consulting course. I am currently working on my master\u2019s thesis and editing a book for a fellow dog trainer. Recently, I\u2019ve been asked to develop some presentations, so that gets worked in as well.<\/div>

Q: <\/strong>How has completing the DTP and becoming a KPA CTP changed your life and career?<\/span><\/p><\/div>

A: <\/strong><\/span>It was my introduction to the science behind what I was learning to do as a trainer, which I’ve now gone on to study at a graduate level. It changed how I look not only at dog behavior but human behavior as well. I think it’s possible I became a more compassionate person as a result of what I learned. On a practical level, I get many more referrals as a result of being KPA-certified than I do for being certified by or belonging to any other organization. KPA also introduced me to the social community I value most within the larger dog training community.<\/p><\/div>

Q: <\/strong>What do you like most about the DTP program?<\/span><\/p><\/div>

A: <\/strong><\/span>Three things: A curriculum that’s based in and strives to keep current with behavior science. The opportunity to choose from a range of experienced, kind faculty members whose interests or strengths may bring something extra to the table. The long-term support of a thoughtful, civil community should you choose to take advantage of it.<\/p><\/div>

Q: <\/strong>What excites you most about leading the DTP?<\/span><\/div>

A: <\/strong><\/span>I really look forward to seeing those same light bulbs go off for other people and to increasing the ranks of smart, humane, effective trainers out there in the world.<\/p><\/div>

Q: <\/strong>What advice would you give to a new student?<\/span><\/div>

A: <\/strong><\/span>Confidence isn’t a prerequisite for skills; skills are a prerequisite for confidence.<\/p><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>

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